tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1994986810513557060.post3190329702247085279..comments2023-10-10T09:06:09.078-07:00Comments on STUDENT IN POMONA: Economic Sufferance vs. Environmental GuiltAndrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05827565756014550602noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1994986810513557060.post-4647221025344243202009-05-12T22:50:00.000-07:002009-05-12T22:50:00.000-07:00Then I suppose we're just S.O.L. when laziness com...Then I suppose we're just S.O.L. when laziness comes into the picture? Not to have a dim view on humanity, but many people tend to choose convenience over cash, even if they can't afford it. Good suggestion though, Andrew. A focus would probably help tremendously.Clairenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1994986810513557060.post-48273496316940386242009-05-12T09:34:00.000-07:002009-05-12T09:34:00.000-07:00I agree with what you say, andrew. I have often t...I agree with what you say, andrew. I have often thought to myself that from an environmental standpoint, this economic collapse couldn't have come at a better time. Once the notions of "green" and "sustainable" and global warming became part of pop culture there was so much fretting about how we were going to "solve" these global problems. And then the prices of fuel rose and people to started riding their bikes instead of driving their cars to save money. This is just one example, but it's so strikingly obvious that the general public will willing make the right choices when it means saving money whereas they only half heartedly do so when it is out of guilt.Akexisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1994986810513557060.post-46378247530669361652009-05-11T22:32:00.000-07:002009-05-11T22:32:00.000-07:00yes, there are too many people. Large cities don't...yes, there are too many people. Large cities don't allow for people to sustain themselves. suburbs allow for some land to grow food, but then everything else is too far away. If towns were smaller and grouped as a series of webs with multiple centers and multiple small communities, people could sustain themselves and trade well. But the infrastructure that exists now doesn't allow for that. It is a towering structure that may fall under its own weight.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05827565756014550602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1994986810513557060.post-23637226630958926762009-05-11T22:21:00.000-07:002009-05-11T22:21:00.000-07:00Too many Fing peopleToo many Fing peopleHuckleberry Humboldthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985728530525970430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1994986810513557060.post-15998402601463659162009-05-11T14:20:00.000-07:002009-05-11T14:20:00.000-07:00Claire, I would instead appeal to their economic s...Claire, I would instead appeal to their economic struggle. I would see what types of things they have a hard time with. For example, their water bill may be high so instead of saying "you're bad you're wasting water, plant drought tolerant stuff" I would say "If you want to save some money on that bill replacing your lawn with drought tolerant species and you'll be happier" or if they say "organic fertilizer costs too much" say "it'll cost almost nothing if you make your own compost and fertilizer." I think the biggest problem is that there is a lack of knowledge on how to do these things. we are so dependent on the supermarket that we don't know HOW to grow our own food or how to do anything else for that matter. But I'm also assuming that these people want to save money. So maybe one needs to find what they are trying to do (or something that is a problem in their life) and appeal to that.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05827565756014550602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1994986810513557060.post-8755821796115453482009-05-11T12:12:00.000-07:002009-05-11T12:12:00.000-07:00come get your cookie. i have some in my office to...come get your cookie. i have some in my office today.Mona Hsiehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15780962665446369574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1994986810513557060.post-54904101413191598622009-05-11T11:50:00.000-07:002009-05-11T11:50:00.000-07:00I like the point that you make. Here's another que...I like the point that you make. Here's another question: HOW do you approach someone who you have a relationship with (personal or familial) and 'guide' them toward more environmentally conscientious decisions without guilt? I mean, I was raised with guilt being the bread-and-butter in my household and it's true - I have an aversion to guilt. What's the 'right' way to go about it with no hard feelings?Clairenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1994986810513557060.post-84353964141536655712009-05-11T11:22:00.000-07:002009-05-11T11:22:00.000-07:00Nice blog. If you haven't already, read Ecopsychol...Nice blog. If you haven't already, read <I>Ecopsychology</I> by Kanner, Gomes, and Roszak.Joshua Lnoreply@blogger.com